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Talents and SL

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:03 am
by Mathias4
Could someone please comment on this example regarding the riposte talent?

Grorix the slayer has melee 80 and rolls 50, giving him 3 sl. Magnar, the fencer is the defender and has 2 levels of riposte and melee 60. He uses a foil, giving a target score of 70. Magnar rolls 50. Who wins the opposed test and what is the final sl?

Since Magnar rolls a successful test, does he gain +2 sl bonus due to his riposte levels? , and thus a total of 4 sl, and thus winner of the opposed test by 1 sl?

Re: Talents and SL

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 11:09 am
by Ayantis
Yes, he does, by rolling egual or under his Skill of 60.
He wins the Opposed Test by +1SL, scoring +4SL (+1SL from the Test, +1SL from the Precise and +2SL from the Riposte) against Grorix’ +3SL, and can deal damage via Riposte.

However , the Precise quality doesn’t give +10 to the Test, but +1SL to a successful Test using this weapon.
If he would roll 61 (against Melee (Fencing) 60) he would not get any bonus from the Precise Quality or talents including the Riposte talent. He would score -0SL.

Re: Talents and SL

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 2:03 pm
by Mathias4
Thanks for the reply. Would you allow combining riposte and reversal, e.g. 3 x riposte and 3 x reversal giving +6 SL on successful defensive rolls?

This also goes for other defensive talents like reversal and shieldsman. Combining such skills give incredibly small chances of loosing the opposed test. Riposte combinations seem extremely (too) good, due to the damage also dealt.

Re: Talents and SL

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 12:13 am
by Ayantis
That’s the RAW and the whole point of advancing few levels in appropiate talents.

However if you are afraid this will swing the balance in combat without a need to constantly adjusting combat powers of the NPCs, you could for instance limit Talents to max one Talent level per Career level but give the players possibility to purchase Talents from lower levels later in their Career.
So to get 3 levels in the Reversal they would have to advance to the 3rd level of a Career first.

But that would require some playtesting.

Re: Talents and SL

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:27 am
by adambeyoncelowe
Mathias4 wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 2:03 pm
Thanks for the reply. Would you allow combining riposte and reversal, e.g. 3 x riposte and 3 x reversal giving +6 SL on successful defensive rolls?

This also goes for other defensive talents like reversal and shieldsman. Combining such skills give incredibly small chances of loosing the opposed test. Riposte combinations seem extremely (too) good, due to the damage also dealt.
Yes, but you can just give NPCs the same number of Talents. Whatever players can have, NPCs can too.