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by Herr Arnulfe
Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:03 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

totsuzenheni wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:58 amIs fourth edition WFRP's official canon setting eighth edition WFB?
I think 4e grabs a little bit from everywhere but avoids contradicting the official 8e setting.
by Herr Arnulfe
Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:30 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

I thought that's what most everyone did. Surely most Witch-hunter NPCs I've seen in any published adventures have ranged from shady over sadistic assholes to utter nutcases. (Admittedly I'm not very familiar with the video games.) As for Solomon Kane, it's amusing that canonically he's very much no...
by Herr Arnulfe
Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:08 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

People who want to make the opposite point of Toby could introduce a Thunberg clone who runs around trying to tell everyone that Skaven really do exist and form a threat to humanity, and finds out that nobody listens to her. Me, I'm not so interested to score political points within a role playing ...
by Herr Arnulfe
Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:50 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

I thought we were talking about WFRP (and any edition)? Why feel the need to play according to WFB 8 canon in the rpg? If it's just a question of playing with your own group of grognards, then obviously you can use whatever setting metaphysics float your boat. I'm talking specifically about using t...
by Herr Arnulfe
Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:48 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

Herr Arnulfe, you are looking for a group that would be an appropriate analogue for mutants - look at how Muslims are regarded in Western society. Because the terrorist attacks since 9/11 have been committed by muslims, and because (at least in Europe) crime statistics show a more than representati...
by Herr Arnulfe
Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:36 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

A bit more on this: As I said, it is not a given that people accumulate enough mutations to flip to the other side. And in official materials there are enough examples of mutants who are not dangerous, and who if anything, deserve protection and sympathy, instead of destruction. Master Lukas Pfandl...
by Herr Arnulfe
Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:31 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

What is D&D doing regarding races? I don't play it but am interested to know. Orcs and Drow are the main ones. I believe the issue with Orcs is that their animal-level Int scores don't justify Half-Orc PCs being anything but the result of rape. So Orc Int scores are being raised among other cul...
by Herr Arnulfe
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:34 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

Considered evil by whom? By most characters IN-GAME, sure, but it's also obvious from the rules that they are wrong since anyone, including good-hearted heroes, can get mutations if they're unlucky. Mutations are evil according to the rules. If you accumulate enough mutations you either become a Ch...
by Herr Arnulfe
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:01 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

To be clear, are you meaning that if someone woke up one morning with a swastika on their forehead you wouldn't be sympathetic? I suppose that would depend on whether ithey were out drinking with nazis the night before. :) But seriously, my point was that the mark of difference that defines an unde...
by Herr Arnulfe
Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:39 pm
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

What 'new concept'? Mutants being victims of oppression has been a staple of WFRP since forever and is certainly present in the new 4E material. What would invalidate that? Mutants can still be victims of oppression, sure, but they can no longer function as metaphors for RW oppressed groups because...
by Herr Arnulfe
Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:07 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

Right from the outset WFRP has never felt the need to conform to reality, but RW gender roles were less strict than is sometimes thought (the ‘roaring girls’ of the early 17th century were exceptional but showed that they could, effectively self identify as men, in medieval times other women led ar...
by Herr Arnulfe
Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:16 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

Surely though the fact that different races do actually exist in the Wahammer world might have an effect upon how much people are bothered by differences within a race. Racisim between races is already established - such as the animosity between Dwarfs and Elves. Also, there most certainly are raci...
by Herr Arnulfe
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:01 pm
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

no, i'm saying this isn't functionally possible. you either embrace people will be offended by the material you're addressing or you remove it. there's no way to have social injustice as a plot point or set dressing without it plausibly offending people. WFRP was always about being more gritty and ...
by Herr Arnulfe
Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:30 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

my point was that making it a chaos cult doesn't really do anything to change the scale of it, you're just kind of making an excuse. even as a chaos cult those are still the people in the community wearing masks which is the issue. it's more of a balm for people that would otherwise feel bad for be...
by Herr Arnulfe
Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:11 am
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

that doesn't really work from a publisher's viewpoint, though. there's not really any way to reframe racism so that it doesn't reflect racism, that's just devaluing the severity of the problem which isn't all that considerate of people who are being racially prejudiced against. I didn't mean to rep...
by Herr Arnulfe
Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:44 pm
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

That said I also don't like the idea of official material encouraging punching of anyone IRL, even if you disagree with their crazy ideas. I can't help but note in his last 3 posts or so @HerrArnulfe wants to punch a lot of people that exist in real life through the medium of WFRP. To be clear, I d...
by Herr Arnulfe
Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:40 pm
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

It'd be more hesitant with dealing with these issues with someone who identified from that community without having a discussion beforehand about what approach is ok. In other games people have talked about no pvp or no graphic violence, anything against children etc before hand, so in an ideal wor...
by Herr Arnulfe
Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:29 pm
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

You haven't mentioned humour and black comedy much, which is the main way I introduced social justice movements into my games. My last TOBCON scenario changed Karl from The Thousand Throne s into Karla - a Greta Thunberg clone. Her followers were busy trying to tear down a statue of Sigmar, daubing...
by Herr Arnulfe
Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:11 pm
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

Playing a woman, a foreigner or a religious minority in a superstitious, inegalitarian and subjugating society perfectly fit with 1980's grim Warhammer Fantasy and is political, mature, subversive, enlightening and edifying... including for player who might better understand their own world. It is ...
by Herr Arnulfe
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:56 pm
Forum: Sigmar’s Tavern
Topic: WFRP Social Justice & Representation
Replies: 202
Views: 193798

Re: WFRP Social Justice & Representation

In the 1980's when much of the early WHFRP stuff was being written there was fights between neo-Nazis and riots from disadvantaged people in Briton that would have been in the news, so there maybe more of a historical influence into the setting that can be used in the current age as well as stereot...